The Border Line

By Jane Six-pack

August 12, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

1.4 million?

But…I thought there was NO WAY for people to come here legally! Isn’t that what the pro-criminal La Raza folks keep claiming? Isn’t that what Barry and McSame tell us when pushing their amnesty proposals? That illegals cheat and lie because our immigration system is broken?

Seems like it worked pretty darn well for being “broken”.

By GeoffDawg

August 12, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Good point Jane. Aside from energy, immigration is still the biggest issue in this campaign season in my opinion.

By Kathryn

August 12, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

The whole legal immigration system is ‘broke’. It is drastically overloaded and backlogged with files going back years and years of people caught somewhere on the way, waiting until their place in line has been reached. Those who are trying to follow the legal process are stymied by substantially increasing fees, increasing delays,decreasing service,antiquated computer systems that can’t talk with each other, inaccurate information from the USCIS mis-information line and a whole host of other ills. Now, legal immigrants are being painted with the same brush as the illegal immigrants; some states refuse to recognize immigrants legal immigration documents and deny them their legal rights of employment, to have a driver’s license or to open bank accounts. It is not easy being a legal immigrant in the US and the unreasonable delays make an already difficult process even harder.

By Mark

August 12, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

There is a process to come here legally, but it is quite long and arduous.

By Juan

August 12, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

I am here illegally! Hahahah. I get welfare, medicaid, my kids get gree lunch at school, my daughter just got hope scholarship, and I just chill at home watch Oprah and Montel.

Oh and sometime I work on the weekends for all cash - No have to file taxes there amigos.

Thanks Gringos. Me love your country muchos. And of course I sent back half of my welfare checks back home where I am buildig my dream home. I lob Amerika. I would write more But I gotta get a corona and finish watching da oprah. See you later gringos and thanks for the welfare check….I need every mont you know…

Feliz Navidad is evere day in AMerika

By Lulline

August 12, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Juan, you are way out of line and you are not funny! In fact, you need help bro. As an immigrant myself I can tell you first hand that the majority of people who come to America are here to work; they are not here to rape the social/welfare system as many of you think. We have the same dreams tnat you do and many have gone through some dangerous lenghts to get here. I’ve been here 36years and i’ve seen/heard it all! Remember, this country was made from the blood, sweat & backbones of immigrants. The 1st ones that came here came illegally if you must know the truth and immigration did not tighten up until the late 70’s. The fabric of this country is what makes us so unique. I’m all for helping the poor, not the lazy. If more people would stop judging and do a little more helping, the world would be a much better place. On Monday, I watched a group of “immigrants” taking their 4yr old twins to PreK and the whole family was there. I think I counted 3 generations. The amount of pictures and fussing really made me realized that “today, a family is rejoicing the fact that they can educate their child” instead of sending him out to work to help the family. Don’t you know, in some countries kids are sent out to work as early as 4 or 5? Free education, freedom from prosecution, free speach…freedom period is the only reason we come here!!!!

By Sashi

August 12, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

I dont think that ‘immigration’ is an issue, I got my citizenship 5 yrs ago, after about a 9 month wait, I sponsored my parents and got them here too. what seems to be an issue is the ‘illegal immigration’!!! I don’t understand how illegals get medicare/wellfare & dont pay their taxes, while those of us who come here legally are not eligible for medicare till we’ve been here 5 years and we pay taxes on top of that??? I think there should be more focus on illegals getting out and being kept out than on working on the immigration issues…

By skillset

August 12, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

We don’t need 6 million unskilled and uneducated laborers coming to the US every month. The path for them should be longer and much more difficult.

Educated, skilled workers from anywhere should be welcomed with open arms.

We also need more immigration here from Europe and Japan, where business people already have the savvy to contribute to our economy immediately…

By SaveOurRepublic

August 12, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

First of all, ending the illegal invasion should be top priority. The first step is immediately ceasing all birthright citizenship for these “anchor babies”. The next step would be ending all taxpayer subsidies for invaders. After this, crack down on traitors to the Republic who employ these illegals. These steps would motivate most of the invaders to “self-deport”, and save the taxpayers (fiat) dollars on these Neocon crafted, window dressing INS/ICE raids (to appease some of the GOP base). Next, build the Pacific to Gulf border fence & use the military to patrol the borders & lay waste to any Mexican military that dare encroach onto our soil. Finally deport the remaining invaders & charge the crooked, Globalist controlled Mexican government for the tab (payable in 100 barrels of oil for each illegal).

Next step, cut the allowance of all visas (especially H-1B visas). These 3rd rate H-1B visas are “slave” labor for these greedy Globalist corporations & take American jobs. Lastly, place a moratorium on all immigration. The system is indeed broke, so we needed allow any further waves of foreigners here to take jobs from real Americans. We need to save the last vestiges of our Republic & heritage before it’s too late!

http://www.vdare.com

By timbo

August 12, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

You know what going to a goverment agency is like? Bunch of obese idiots who don’t want to get up and help you, right? Multiply that by one thousand and you have an idea of what the ICe (INS) is like. See you pay taxes, and might complain, but no body trying to come here from another country is going to complain. Think about what those wonderful talentless goverment jerks are like. Not that anyone cares, but don’t think its easy if you are legal. Its a long wait, and our fat lazy goverment employees make it hell. Too bad we can’t trade peoples.

By dbm

August 12, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

To Jane Six-pack:

We have different quotas by country of origin. From some countries we let a lot of people in, from others we let in very few. All these quotas aren’t right. We shouldn’t put arbitrary limits on how many people can come here.

By np

August 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

SaveOurRepublic:

You are wrong about H-1 Visas. Most of those Visas are going to educated/skilled and high-tech workers who will stay here and pursue a green card.

These folks are not taking jobs away from Americans. We don’t have enough high-tech workers or computer science majors to fill all of the jobs. I work in IT so I know this for a fact, I see it play out every day.

By Frank

August 12, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

I heard that a there was going to be a group of people naturalized at the National Archives next week. Do you know if it is open to the public?

By lucky

August 12, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

H1B visas are far too many - we have job shortages and engineering salaries have been flat and falling as a result. The foreign workers get preference in place of citizens because they work cheaper, and that is the reason there is a push. My husband was replaced with 2 German engineers when he was diagnosed with cancer. Another engineer was fired because he was too old and too expensive. You guessed it - it was a German company in Illinois.

Now IT jobs are scarce and salaries are falling - mostly due to engineers from India working at Indian companies here. I do not believe np that there is a shortage, and new college grads this summer are struggling to find employment.

We need more job protection from foreign workers - a program like Bermuda where the employer has to prove that there really is no one to do the job. And, they need to pay the fair wage for that job. Very little immigration in Bermuda, although it is a financial hub. And, the average salary is $85,000 and that includes hotel workers.

By Paul

August 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

I disagree with np. H-1 Visas are used by corporations to save 20-30% on wages. The system is set up to give the visa holder eventual residency and citizenship. Personally, I don’t think corporations have the right to give out these benefits. I was layed off from an IT job for the final time in 2001. The staff in some IT shops are becoming predominantly Indian. Don’t try to convince me they are smarter than Americans. This is about saving money/corporate welfare.

By np

August 13, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this

To Paul: It’s not about Indians being “smarter” than Americans. The issue is that there’s not enough American computer science graduates to fill all of the IT positions available, and Americans don’t WANT to do the work that H-1 Indians are doing.

For instance, every American that wants to do Java or Oracle technical work is seeking to be the manager/architect only, has crazy job demands, and wants top dollar salary. I am the head recruiter for a successful software company and we have 20+ positions that are tough to fill. Americans get 2-3 years of experience and then only want the positions of great responsbility and “strategic” leadership or project management. Also, anyone who is any good within certain disciplines (like Oracle DBA work) are Indian - Americans are doing the work which is less tedious but pays more.

I’ve had recent computer science graduates (with BS only and no experience) that have a horrible sense of entitlement and hit me with a list of signing bonus, relocation, work-from-home and benefits demands. Indians don’t do that - they just ask for a fair salary, relocate quickly and don’t complain. They will also move from place to place as the contract work allows, which Americans won’t do unless you pay them 80% above normal wages.

The IT job market is still very good right now. Any American that’s worth their salt is employed right now in Atlanta, unless they’re one of those insanely picky holdouts that won’t take a job unless it’s 100% perfect and pays very high.

By Paul

August 13, 2008 4:39 AM | Link to this

Thank you for the dialog np. I agree with your points about spoiled young people. I also add that middle aged people are expensive (medical, etc.). However, I must ask does this merit importing cheaper, more compliant labor? Of course people from a poorer nation with the employer sponsoring their stay will be well behaved and productive. Your eyes are green; you are seeing the corporate bottom line. I want a nation, not a wide open flea market.

By Ebaby

August 13, 2008 5:06 AM | Link to this

I married a western European and had to go through the immigration process with him. It was very upsetting and at times it seemed extremely unfair. The restraints that they put on my husband made ME feel like I was being held captive at times. I am so glad that we are done with the process. Now we have to figure out how to bring his aging parents to live with us. Its not as easy as I thought it would be. It looks like we have a 5 year wait. I hope they arent dead by then…

By L1M89

August 13, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Quote: [‘Remember, this country was made from the blood, sweat & backbones of immigrants.’] Immigrants yes, not Illegal Aliens. The criminality of the Illegal Aliens is knocking down what Immigrants helped build up.

Quote: [‘We shouldn’t put arbitrary limits on how many people can come here.’] Those limits are seemingly arbitrary only to “open borders moonbats” who denounce our nations right to defend its own sovereignty. A person has a right to defend personal property, “We The People” have the collective right to defend our USA‘s sovereignty.

If we don’t defend our right to choose who, when & where people from other countries enter our USA we’ll loose what we’ve gained in the many years since our Founding Fathers made their noble sacrifices forming our great union.

There are those who would throw open our borders & if that were to happen chaos & anarchy would rush over our land. All nations, regardless of political philosophy, understand that national sovereignty must be defended or lawlessness will rule over us all.

All patriotic law-abiding American Citizens understand that if we refuse to defend our national sovereignty, we’ll be denied our God given right to defend ourselves against the lawless.

Quote: [‘Now we have to figure out how to bring his aging parents to live with us. Its not as easy as I thought it would be.’] When our Immigrants came to America in the late eighteen hundreds & early nineteen hundreds they had to leave everything to get here with no guarantees that they would be allowed to remain. They all had it hard, yet they prevailed & they all worked long & hard making better lives for themselves & a better America for US all.
God Bless America, while we still can.

Quote: “Ask not what America will do for you, ask what are you going to do for America.”

By SaveOurRepublic

August 13, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

np @ 8:10 PM EDT - No sir…I’m absolutel correct! H-1B visa workers are brought over by Globalist corporation solely for cost savings (as they can pay the H-1B’s less). I also work in IT (have for 13 years) & don’t believe the Neocon’s Globalist rhetoric that we’re short on IT skills…that’s hogwash! Globalist Elite scum like Bill Gates constantly push for more H-1B visas for cost savings (at the expense of American jobs)! There are plenty of Americans who’ve been laid off & passed over for IT jobs because these greedy, sell-out Corporations know they can hire the H-1B “slave” labor to do the job. These Indians are not as qualified or intelligent as the Americans whom jobs they’re taking…to suggest otherwise is Neocon propaganda!

Also, don’t buy into the idea that you’re part of the empire because of your stock portfolio. Wall $treet is a big ponzi scheme based on smoke & mirrors & tied to the quickly failing U.S. (fiat) dollar, which will eventually be replaced by the Amero (NAU common currency). When the economy (soon) crashes, so will all these stocks pegged to the dollar. Bottom line, we need statemen in D.C. who support Main Street & the American Middle Class, not traitorous puppets who push corporate welfare for Wall $treet!

http://www.numbersusa.com

By L1M89

August 13, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Quote: [‘Globalist Elite scum like Bill Gates’] Is B. Gates a “neocon?” If a person isn’t a “Neocon” are they by default a “neocom?” Perhaps if you defined “neocon” it would help to see whom it is you’re identifying & as what.

Having the “Amero” as our unit of exchange implies you’re advocating for a “North American Union.” Are you? Would a “North American Union” abolish the Union of the United States of America?

By SaveOurRepublic

August 13, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

L1M89 - I absolutely oppose/abhor the NAU/SPP, NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO and U.S. membership in the UN (& the UN HQ on U.S. soil). I am a paleoconservative Nationalist who supports protection of U.S. borders, sovereignty, culture & our foundations.

I wasn’t saying that Gates is a Neocon (per se), only that he constantly pushes for H-1B visas and further foreigners backfilling American workers. Gates is (however) an Globalist Elitist who fully supports the Malthusian eugenics agenda. His father was a Director for Planned Parenthood & his Bill & Melinda Gates Foundations funds mass vaccinations across the globe. Vaccines which are no doubt filled with mercury & other contaminants. Gates is an Internationalist to the core & an enemy of our Republic!

http://www.jbs.org

By L1M89

August 13, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

You kindly identified yourself as a “paleoconservative Nationalist,” now I’ll identify myself as an extreme rightwing knuckle-dragin’ Neanderthal who at first thought you were a libertarian moonbat the way you seemed to be denouncing 69% of the Republican’t Party. Party of what I haven’t a clue other they spend our hard earned tax dollars slightly less rapidly than DemocRats.

Sorry about the mistaken libertarian ID, however one of several areas I’m in agreement with you on is how globalists pose a major threat to our national sovereignty & the future of our USA being the land of the free & home of the brave.

Gotta go, there’ll be plenty o’ time to disagree latter.