How They See Us

By Mike D

November 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

While it is debatable about who is/was the best president, there is no way that Jimmy Carter is not the worst. He brought us incredible: inflation, interest rates, unemployment, and a weakened position among world powers. To make matters worse, the media still tapes sound bites from this idiot.

By Chaz

November 3, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

“One surprise is that Ronald Reagan comes in at No. 8.”

Nicely biased phrasing there. It’s no surprise to anyone who survived the Carter years. And ask me how much I care what Europeans think of our choice in Presidents. (Shudder.)

By Calvin G. Sims, Sr.

November 3, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

I think that Barack Obama will go down in history as one of the most “beloved” of all presidents. He will be a president for ALL Americans. The divisiveness that has festered during this long contest will fade as the wisdom of his decisions and the long term benefit of his leadership gradually becomes apparent.

As an old man, years from now, he will be viewed as America’s great elder statesman and leaders the world over will call on if not depend on his even handed judgment.

This may sound ridiculous to some, maybe even many, just remember that you heard it from me first. CGS

By Texas Pete

November 3, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Calvin,

I don’t think Obama will inherit enough positive tools given the worlds situation to become more than average - this is not a slam. Give the finacial, oil, jobs, terrorism situation he or McCain will have to deal with crisis after crisis which will not allow enough of their personalities to show.

Obama will be known as the first AA president, but with limited experience and a bad economy, that may be the extent of his term(s)

By Drew

November 3, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Calvin, can we wait at least until he’s won the election before we canonize Obama? Geez.

It’s that same sycophantic attitude that places Kennedy near the top even though he didn’t do anything and fails to blame Johnson for the Vietnam War and decades of wasteful spending mandated by The ‘Great’ Society. And take WWII away from FDR and his presidency is an entirely different story. The Depression only got worse through his first two terms.

By **Frederick (Bailey) Douglass**

November 3, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

1) Lincoln - obvious, the republic was drowning. In 4 years, he made decisions of a true powerbroker.

2) Washington - Best move he made was stepping down after two terms. Could have stayed for life…he was THAT popular. Set in motion our ideal of power always in transition…which brings new fresh ideas. Good job GW.

2) John Adams - First to live in the White House, this man was the strategy behind Washington’s brute during the revolution. Diplomatic force….kept US out of wars that would have threatened the new republic.

3) FD Roosevelt - Social action and social justice were introduced to our national conscience by the Great Depression and this forward thinker. The REAL deal.

Looking forward to tomorrow! CHANGE is around the corner and its exciting!

Ms. Emling, who are your top three?

By Calvin G. Sims, Sr.

November 3, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Texas Pete, you make excellent points, and you may be right. However, I am a man of faith and a student of history.

Great things have always been possible for this nation. See, America is something special. We are only 232 years old and look at how far we have come. No, Texas Pete, I may be naive, but I BELIEVE IN US. CGS

By I'm Your Huckleberry

November 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Au contraire Calvin,

Obama will be remembered indeed, but whether he is remembered for his gross incompetence, rampant scandals, or unbridled arrogance (or all 3) is up to him.

Nonetheless, productive citizens will be bridled with National Obama Day (or week or month), the Obama monument, having every city in American with an Obama Avenue, a push for Obama to be on the currency even while in office—and if all this isn’t done immediately, it will be chalked up to (you guessed it) racism. Beautiful.

If Mr. Obama won’t protect the unborn, he won’t protect you. And you should never forget it.

By Allan

November 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

This ranking follows almost exactly the rankings done by the Wall Street Journal with a heavy dose of Federalist Society members. Any ranking that does not have our current president dead last or almost dead last (James Buchanan will always give any incompetant a run for his money). George Bush did the most to help increase the rankings of Bill Clinton; seriously how do you screw things this badly considering the great hand that Bush started his presidency with? Bush is such a scewup that he could find a way to f* up an anvil.

By Drew

November 3, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

And I’m sure no one really cares, but U. S. Grant in the top twenty? He was a good general, but a corrupt drunkard as president. No way.

By BW

November 3, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Mike D do a little research, look what Nixon and Ford dumped on him. Ford’s way of handling the economy was to hand out ‘WIN’ buttons, “Whip Inflation Now”, didn’t sound like a surpluse there. Plus a 7% unemployment rate, nice thing is, bush has gotten Jimmy off the hook.

By Koz

November 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

FDR? Seriously? The guy that socialized America more that any other president. All of his programs couldn’t even pull us out of a depression, it took a war to do that. The media loved FDR just like they love Obama, why do you think there were never any images showing FDR from the waist down. Many of his programs are still killing us today.

By Jed Clampet

November 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

The worst president hasn’t been elected yet.

By Texas Pete

November 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

BW,

Iran hostage show down, failed timid rescue attempt, release Panama Canal - eventualy purchased by Chinese. Carter was terrible. Its all great his tie up with habitat, but that crappy turd keeps talking about how horrible America is.

By Realistic

November 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Until both political parties (especially congressional leaders) reach out for unity, it will never happen. Pelosi and Reid have shown no effort since they have been in control. Hastert before them didn’t also. It does’nt matter who the chief executive is. Leaders in both parties must forget the t** for tat and personal attacks. I hope attacks on the next president are not as personal as the attacks on past occupants have been.

By jack

November 3, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Calvin, Obama haS way too may Socialist ideas and He is King of, lets say, skipping around what He really intends to do; otherwise known as LIEING. If the liberal media had done its job, Hillary Clinton would become President and I bet you anything logical, even SHE would do a better job than what We are in store for with BO, Congress & the Senate all in the majority of Liberals.

By Mike

November 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Chaz You are an idiot

By JackP

November 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Not only is Carter the worse President but he ranks near the bottom as the biggest phoney. He once wrote a letter to the Justice Dept on behalf of a Nazi war criminal asking that he not be deported to another country to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. Disgusting!

By Penguinmom

November 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

As far as greatest presidents, definitely think Reagan ranks in the top 5. Carter should be definitely be in the bottom 5. Carter was an okay ex-president when he was just building houses. Once he started complaining about our country, I don’t even want him associated with Georgia anymore.

CSG, Obama (if elected) will not be a president for ALL Americans because he won’t represent me or any of the people I know. I don’t believe in abortion on demand, taking money from one and giving it to another, or creating a national civilian security force (scary).
So, while I’m not panicking like some liberals are about the possibility of McCain, I really don’t look forward to the next 4 years if Obama wins.

By BT fan

November 3, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Ronald Reagan Administration is the reason for that good Clinton economy. If not for that,Clinton would no doubt be the WORSTof all presidents with exception of James Buchanan. Harry Truman should be at the top of the list

By Ginger

November 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Penguinmom says: “Obama (if elected) will not be a president for ALL Americans because he won’t represent me or any of the people I know.”

A large percentage of Americans have felt that way for 8 years now. I guess the shoe is now on the other foot. By the way, you Republicans did a good job of it. Hopefully, Obama can bring back the prosperity of the Clinton years! OBAMA ‘08!

By Indifferent

November 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

1) John Adams 2) Thomas Jefferson 3) Abraham Lincoln 4) JFK 5) Matt Ryan in 2032 - GO FALCONS!

By RealityKing

November 3, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Bush freed 57,000,000 people from the tyranny and oppression of a few. But evidently, London Times staffers don’t hold that in high regard. How ironic….

By beegee

November 3, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Let’s see here..I agree Carter was among the worst but its not like he took an office that was in good condition..(see Nixon and Ford). Bush, the second bush that is was probably the worst president to date..Im suprised that Clinton isnt higher. Nevermind the man’s personal life he ran this country pretty well..well at least I know my pockets were a whole lot better during his tenure. Speaking of his personal life..why did he get exposed for something every president before him freely got away with it?..and I know Im bout to get a bunch of people mad with this one but Ronald Reagan was one the worst presidents this country has seen..even worst for the black communities across the nation. Carter set it up(panama canal for example) and Reagan exercised the plan to perfection..yes he did make money for the country in the process but set the inevitable in play at the same time..check ya history look at crime rates and drug usage during Reagan’s term. The drug game rose to an all-time high under Reagan. So at the bottom of my list would list George W. Bush..last..Carter..above him..and Reagan above him…thank you!!

By Chaz

November 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

BW - you forgot Carter’s 21% interest rates, rampant inflation, gas shortages, the cardigan sweater, the National Malaise and the Mariel Boatlift, where Jimmy allowed Castro to empty his prisons into South Florida.

One of the most impotent Presidents ever. Just wanted to help.

By scrappy

November 3, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

RealityKing - I want some of whatever you are smoking! Must be some pretty strong stuff for a comment like that.

How is this new freedom working? haha, only one bomb explosion in Iraq today! exchanged one tyrant for another - Hussen for Bush! Billions of my tax dollars being wasted on people that don’t want us there, and helping to sink our economy in the process. Not to mention that the people in the region hate us more now than ever before, and because of who? Bush thats who! He has got to be worse than Carter.

By Kclubmember

November 3, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

One blogger suggest that Barack Obama will be one of the most “beloved” Presidents ever.I think it’s a little premature to say that.You should wait until the election is over before you declare Obama the winner.

By Fred

November 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Frankly, it’s still too soon to make any historical judgements on Clinton or either Bush presidency. The politics are still too fresh and long-term ramifications of their actions are yet to be seen.

And I had my disagreements with Reagan at the time, but the night-and-day difference he made after the Carter administration (economically and diplomatically) and his efforts that led to bringing down the Soviet Union make up for his deficit spending and the loss of those Marines in Lebanon.

By Craig

November 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

ronald Reagan is easily the greatest president in the last 75 years. What FDR started was finally tempered by Reagan, He was a supporter of the individual and not into group. He had common sense and you never had to wonder what side of an issue stood on. Whenever Tip’Oneal and the other libs would demagogue an issue, he would take it straight to the American people and explain in plain english what was needed. He dropped the top income tax rate from 79% to 28%, dropped the top capital gains rate down to 20 % and doubled the amount of revenues collected by the government. he saw the immorality of the estate tax and tried to have it appealed. Perhaps his greatest legacy was that he won the cold war with the Ruskies made you proud to be an American again. Wow those were heady times. If the republicans would nominate someone of his caliber again elections would’nt even be close. BTW, the reason the Clinton years were so good is because of Newt and the CWA republicanswho offered up laws and ideas in the Reagan vein of thinking that Clinton signed into law. He governed like a Republican fically and a liberal socially which is as close to a libertarian as one can get in this day and age.

By spark

November 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Bill Clinton was the best in my lifetime. He balanced the budget and was willing to work with Republicans for the good of the country. He did some things in his personal life that weren’t great but I don’t look to the President for moral guidance. I have Jesus for that.

By THWG

November 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Ronald Reagan was the last true conservative president. He was the last president (Both Bushes and Clinton included) that held the belief that what the government spends is the PEOPLES’ money, not the GOVERNMENT’S money.

By reality

November 3, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Is it possible that the great president RR was senile? Kind’a makes you want to say @#$$%&WHAT!

By Reality Check

November 3, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

It is quite funny haw after all these years and all thats happened since then, so many people still don’t understand the Carter presidency. When he came to office, this country was coming of its second most unstable period. When he took office, the country was still suffering from the divided wound of Vietnam, The instability in the Middle East was just starting to boil.That is what caused our first major energy crisis, not Carter. Had Reagan not dismantled all of the things put in place to make us more energy independant, we would not be so desparate now. The Panama Canal was always supposed to go back to the Panamanian people, Carter just upheld our end of the bargan. And on top of all of that, he had to follow Nixon and all the C**P associated with Watergaate. ( I know Ford was right before him, But in ‘76, the office of the President was still stained from Tricky Dick! Jimmy Carter came along at a time when this country needed stability. He was the right person at the right time. Nothing more, and Nothing less.

By HEADFROMMONICA

November 3, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

BILL CLINTON WAS BY FAR THE BEST PRESIDENT. aLL OF THESE REPUBLICANS FROM GEORGIA ARE RASICT BIGOTS THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT POLITICS. Y’ALL IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT B/C HE GOT SOME HEAD? BFD! WHAT HAS GEORGE BUSH DONE FOR US LATELY BESIDES BUT US IN THIS HORRIBLE ECONOMIC CRISIS.

AND MCCAIN? HE CANT EVEN LIFT HIS ARMS ABOVE HIS HEAD

By HEADFROMMONICA

November 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

BILL CLINTON WAS BY FAR THE BEST PRESIDENT. aLL OF THESE REPUBLICANS FROM GEORGIA ARE RASICT BIGOTS THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT POLITICS. Y’ALL IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT B/C HE GOT SOME HEAD? BFD! WHAT HAS GEORGE BUSH DONE FOR US LATELY BESIDES BUT US IN THIS HORRIBLE ECONOMIC CRISIS.

AND MCCAIN? HE CANT EVEN LIFT HIS ARMS ABOVE HIS HEAD

By HEADFROMMONICA

November 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

BILL CLINTON WAS BY FAR THE BEST PRESIDENT. aLL OF THESE REPUBLICANS FROM GEORGIA ARE RASICT BIGOTS THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT POLITICS. Y’ALL IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT B/C HE GOT SOME HEAD? BFD! WHAT HAS GEORGE BUSH DONE FOR US LATELY BESIDES BUT US IN THIS HORRIBLE ECONOMIC CRISIS.

AND MCCAIN? HE CANT EVEN LIFT HIS ARMS ABOVE HIS HEAD

By HEAD FROM MONICA

November 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

BILL CLINTON WAS BY FAR THE BEST PRESIDENT. aLL OF THESE REPUBLICANS FROM GEORGIA ARE RASICT BIGOTS THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT POLITICS. Y’ALL IMPEACHED A PRESIDENT B/C HE GOT SOME HEAD? BFD! WHAT HAS GEORGE BUSH DONE FOR US LATELY BESIDES BUT US IN THIS HORRIBLE ECONOMIC CRISIS.

AND MCCAIN? HE CANT EVEN LIFT HIS ARMS ABOVE HIS HEAD

By jeff

November 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Lincoln abused his powers. I don’t care if he made stern decisions in the time of war. He had disregard for Writ of Habeus Corpus - removing power from legislative and judicial branches - and giving the power to himself. Very authoritarian. I disagree with slavery, but Lincoln violated a simple tenet of America…and I am shocked that this is often overlooked.

By lovelyliz

November 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Lincoln , FDR and Teddy were all great presidents, but then they didn’t have to run a campaign with 24-7 news/paparazzi digging into every nook and cranny of their lives.

As for most moral of Presidents?? According to today’s standards that would have to be Jimmy Carter. Perhaps not the best man to serve in the Oval Office, but one who lived to a very high moral code.

By S. Shiver

November 3, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Not saying he was the best but I don’t think there can be any doubt that George W. Bush belongs in the top 3.

By Shawny

November 3, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

FDR was a socialist. His programs were the beginning of the downfall of our country. Carter was second worst.

By Steve

November 3, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

S. Shiver: Wow, you must be certifiably retarded. Is it from all the glue you’ve sniffed over the years, or were you born that way?

By AF

November 3, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Interesting. In a recent poll of American historians, 61% voted George Bush as the worst President. We will see if time improves the judgement.

By Reality Check

November 3, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Shawny @4:35

Prior to FDR, the top 1% of earners in this country possesed 49% of the TOTAL WEALTH. That means at that time, single individuals could corner markets and influence the entire finacial structure of this country. The social programs that FDR inplemented this country to grow because it created a new class of investors, and put an economic ladder in place for everyone to use to advance their economic position. Study your economic history before you start to spout that type of bologna…

By boots

November 3, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

You can tell the people blogging here are not historians and get most of their info from Rolling Stone, MSNBC or Entertainment Tonight.

My list would be: 1. Washington - anyone who has seriously studied GW would come down with him at the top or #2 spot. He avoided problems that Lincoln did not, and he led the nation in ways that no one else ever has or ever will. Selfless to the extreme, and he was the brightest man to ever lead & build our nation. 2. Lincoln - see other’s comments. However, his reduction of liberty is troubling and he did not succeed in avoiding the war. 3. John Adams 4. Ronald Reagan 5. Teddy Roosevelt

Overrated: FDR, JKF (big time) and Eisenhower. Worst ever: Carter, Buchanan and US Grant.

By Super Dad

November 3, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Nixon was the best. He knew how the game was played and was the chess master at it. In order to make an omlette you have to break a few eggs.

By Question

November 3, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Was Obama’s grandmother who died the “typical white person” about whom he referred? .

By Reality Check

November 3, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me what Reagan did that was so great ( besides invade Grenada) LOL

By Reality Check

November 3, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

One more thing…

For the record REAGAN DID NOT WIN THE COLD WAR!!!!! That is the great lie of the last 30 years. The Soviet Union collasped because the theory of communism is flawed to the point that all anybody had to do was exactly what every president did since WW2 and that is stand there and do nothing Communism killed its self. All Reagan did was speak at the funeral.

By BiteMe

November 3, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Carter is easily the worst president of this century and probably of the republic. His picture is by feeble hairless weenie in the dictionary. Have you forgotten 17 percent interest rates, gas shortages and stagflation while Carter clutched his Mr. Rogers cardigan and told America they were suffering from a “malaise”. When confronted with Soviet invasion he boycotted the Olympics and crippled American grain exports. Carter was a highly intelligent but weak minded wonk with the character of a rabbit in heat. His presidency was marked by ineffectual leadership and dithering. Since his days as president, he has done the unthinkable and become even more of a detriment to this nation. May his name live in Infamy!

By Mike D

November 3, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

I think I saw where soon to be president Obama was promising to make sure every house in America (soon to be know as East Kenya) had a pot of chitlins everynight for dinner.

By gayle

November 3, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

All of you here who accuse Obama of being a socialist and of “spreading the wealth around” - here’s a news flash.

Unless you have never paid taxes, you have already contributed to that very concept. Taxes - by your definition - is socialism.

So Karl Marx, make some room. There are lots of us here who have been sitting next to you all this time and never realized it.

By Trey

November 3, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Reality check, Regan got the leader of Germany whose name I can not spell worth a dang so I said the leader, to tear down the Berlin Wall.

By Reality Check

November 3, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Trey, The “Tear down This wall speach” was a great sound bite, but Germany was already on its way to making Democratic change. Why do you think he was able to stand on the Berlin wall and make such a statement. It was Just like Obama’s Visit to Europe earlier this year. It looked good, but it really did not mean much.

By Stewie

November 3, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

As a good friend of mine says, the best president was William Henry Harrison because he wasn’t around long enough to screw up anything.

By kady

November 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Bill Clinton and the democrats…what didn’t you like…the peace or the prosperity when he was in office - I HATE that another Clinton will not be elected tomorrow…..

By catlady

November 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Cannot figure out what the “charm” of Reagan is. Teflon Ron indeed. He was a clueless tool, altho not nearly as bad as the Shrub. Remember the consults with the astrologist? Remember his denial of AIDS? My God, some of you have a very limited memory! Or you are as miopic as h3ll!

By Your God Obama

November 3, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

As of tomorrow, you’ll all be my loyal servants. I will be your best president ever, or you will all under go reeducation. I will take all of the rich folks money and give it to the poor. I will socialize medicine to the point it will be sh1tty for everyone but my loyal posse. You will bow to me as of January 20, 2009.

By Jan

November 3, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Without a doubt, the worst excuse for a U.S. president was the moronic Carter. If NOBAMA is elected by enough uneducated American voters, he will undoubtedly surpass both Carter and Kennedy as inept, stupid and treacherous. The man is anti-American, and a socialist. Only blind fools will succumb to his rhetoric.

By Your God Obama

November 3, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Jan,

I am Obama and when I am elected and sworn in with th Quaran, you will become my 2nd wife.

Your future husband and God,

Obama

By Jim Martin

November 3, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Jan,

This is Jim Martin and I approve this blog. when you become Obama’s 2nd beotch, I will cash in all of my chits just to take you for sloppy sec nds.

Love

Jim Martin

By WhatDoIknow

November 3, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama will be remembered as the President that brought socialism to America changing our country forever.

By Michael

November 3, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

Bottom 5

By Mike D

November 3, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Michael,

You forgot to put Carter in your bottom 5 list. Jesus the guy seemed like he got his mentoring by “Pacifist Weekly”. Also, the A hole is alive and continues to be a turd.

By Your God Barack

November 3, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

When I am elected president, I will take down all portraits of previous presidents, put them on the floor in the Oval Office, and p** on all of them.

By Fred

November 4, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

Any historian who claims he can judge an administration that isn’t even finished is working his own agenda, and is NOT a historian, he’s a politician. A propagandist. History emerges only with time, long after the dust has settled.

And in my estimation, anyone that can deny Reagan’s role (along with Pope John Paul II and Margaret Thatcher) in the fall of Communism has only a tenuous grip on reality. Reagan had his failures, but that wasn’t one of them.

By T'VILLE DAWG

November 5, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

George Washington gave everything to free the U.S. from British oppression, without him the revolution probably would never have been successful.

By sedimenjerry

November 5, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

“Your God Barack” “Mike D” “Jim Martin” “super dad” and “Texas Pete” are the same person. Just check the e-mail address given.

But anyway, I would probably put George Washignton in front of Lincoln. After all, Lincoln would not have had a union to save had it not been for Washington.

By John

November 5, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

One of the worst presidents of all time is the one who gave us one of the biggest crashes of the stock market, crash of the housing market and was in office during 9/11…ummm, who could it be…..

By Vomit

November 5, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

The worst president is Barrack O-Boom-Box-Bama and he hasn’t even had a chance to steal from the “producers” and give to the “lazies” yet.

By stupid

November 5, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

That is an easy question. The greatest pres ever was William Henry Harrison. He was only in office a month so didn’t have time to mess anything up.

By we todd it

November 6, 2008 3:34 AM | Link to this

Welcome to the dark ages ya’ll. My answer to those in favor of abortion: PICK ON SOMEBODY YOUR OWN SIZE! I wonder how much money Chavez, Iran and Putin donated to Al Obama.

By laidback and lucky

November 6, 2008 6:06 AM | Link to this

Ronald Reagan will have to go down as the best of modern times. Thomas Jefferson was the best diplomat of past times. He got us started as started as a young country dealing with the world. B Obama will make a lot of promises and make a lot of world friends that will hurt this country for next 50 years.

By America has spoken

November 6, 2008 6:09 AM | Link to this

Who ever is over voting for Georgia needs to go! The election was poorly managed and the tallied votes could not have possibly been correct! I want a receipt for my vote.

By Bubba

November 6, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this

If Lincoln were president today, he’d be considered the worst. He was a racist. He had a sitting congressman imprisoned for dissenting with the war. He suspended habeus corpus. The media would have killed him.